Re: Japanese high scores from CVG circa 1996 vs SA.net

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Japanese high scores from CVG circa 1996 vs SA.net

tabitha 04-23-2006, 9:38 PM
I finally dug this out of my hard drive, it originally appeared in the www.nightsintodreams.com Imagnigod forum but the scores have appeared in various places.

http://www.scoreattack.net/images/200604/sco.bmp

GSK compared the Japanese high score to the current best for our site which was pretty interesting. Inspired by this I added up all out records and compared them to the Japanese scores and noted the difference.

JP score - Spring Valley: 569,360
SA.net potential - 584,020 (+14,660)

Spring Valley is actually potential OVER the current known Japanese score, this is mainly due to the combined efforts of GSK and Lance!

JP Score Mystic Forest: 714,120
SA.net potential - 641,780 (-72,340)

We are a fair ways behind here but other than Lance nobody has spent alot of time on MF so I think this is feasible.

JP Score Soft Museum - 1,032,540
SA.net potential - 522,480 (-510,060)

This score I am HIGHLY suspicious of this score. I think it is exploiting and as yet undiscovered glitch. GSK has pushed the level over 500,000 which I didnt think was possible but to be only half way to the best score when we are so close on all the others seems very strange.

JP Score Splash Garden - 660,640
SA.net potential - 631,460 (-29,180)

Again, totally within reach, Especially with the new SG4 strat.

JP Score Frozen Bell: 804,000
SA.net potential - 729,780 (-74,220)

Frozen Bell has been worked pretty hard by Lance and Kraken, clearly a lot of tweaking to be done here but it seems possible.

JP Score Stick Canyon: 789,240
SA.net potential - 620,300 (-168,940)

This one is quite far behind but it at least seems vaguely possible, perhaps once the backwards link gets sorted out for SC1 and there is a possibility of an infinite for SC2 plus further optimising for SC3 and 4 I think we might get there.

No score for Twin Seeds, Xmas NiGHTS or the bosses are available at this time. All score listed are as of the 24th of April 2006

Re: Japanese high scores from CVG circa 1996 vs SA.net

gsk 04-24-2006, 4:54 AM
Cheers for the CVG pick - as you said, I think they're all doable, bar SM without a glitch!

gsk

Re: Japanese high scores from CVG circa 1996 vs SA.net

tabitha 04-24-2006, 7:01 AM
No sweat. I acctually spent a while messing about trying to glitch SM last night havent had had any luck so far. Was using the kids though so there might be something as nights, I will look at that next.

Re: Japanese high scores from CVG circa 1996 vs SA.net

Kraken 04-24-2006, 3:27 PM
Hmph, looks like it's time to get my Frozen Bell game back on. 101k on each course average...hm...

Re: Japanese high scores from CVG circa 1996 vs SA.net

gsk 08-24-2006, 8:36 AM
Cheers for the update on the front page Tab. The only one thats at the moment inconceivable with our current strats is SC - the rest would be refining, along with the SM stunt mode maxed out.

Great work guys.

gsk

SA Spring Valley - 598,780 - JP Spring Valley - 569,360 - Differential + 29,420

SA Mystic Forest - 710,240 - JP Mystic Forest - 714,120 - Differential - 3,880

SA Soft Museum - 754,760 - JP Soft Museum - 1,032,540 - Differential - 277,780

SA Splash Garden - 631,460 - JP Splash Garden - 660,460 - Differential - 29,000

SA Frozen Bell - 756,820 - JP Frozen Bell - 804,000 - Differential - 47, 180

SA Stick Canyon - 664,550 - JP Stick Canyon - 789,240 - Differential - 124,690

Re: Japanese high scores from CVG circa 1996 vs SA.net

gsk 12-31-2007, 4:15 AM
Lets have an update... just SC to go

SA Spring Valley 791,560
JP Spring Valley 569,360
Differential + 222,200

SA Mystic Forest 875,540
JP Mystic Forest 714,120
Differential +161,420

SA Soft Museum 1,038,420
JP Soft Museum 1,032,540
Differential + 5,880

SA Splash Garden 715,880
JP Splash Garden 660,460
Differential + 55420

SA Frozen Bell 1,016,280
JP Frozen Bell 804,000
Differential + 212,280

SA Stick Canyon 641,760
JP Stick Canyon 789,240
Differential - 147,480

Re: Japanese high scores from CVG circa 1996 vs SA.net

AirMax 12-31-2007, 10:47 AM
Why no Twin Seeds scores? Nobody ever posts them it seems.

Re: Japanese high scores from CVG circa 1996 vs SA.net

gsk 12-31-2007, 1:36 PM
lol sorry Airmax, this thread all stems from an infamous article in CVG, a games magazine, that published some, at the time, stupidily high scores from Japan, check it out here. There was no Twin Seeds, Bosses or Xmas Nights so they're not on the list -so as far as we know, you have the TS World Record!

Re: Japanese high scores from CVG circa 1996 vs SA.net

charlie 12-31-2007, 3:41 PM
Stick Canyon seems possible...with the current SA mare records we end up at a potential 737,440 (107,490 + 85,830 + 128,090 + 47,310 = 368,720 x 2.0 = 737,440).

So our potential is only 51,800 short, or 25,900 before the boss. Lui, you could definitely do it. Your potential is already at 723,200. Go for it man!!

Any suggestions which mare we should work on to find the extra points?? The stunt ribbon seems the most likely but I haven't played this dream much so maybe somewhere else??

On a separate note, too bad there isn't a Japanese site with high scores, eh? I've spent some time searching google and trying to decipher japanese sites but never have any luck. There's gotta be a forum some place or something...oh well.

Re: Japanese high scores from CVG circa 1996 vs SA.net

charlie 01-18-2008, 8:16 PM
So I guess we've done it! All the JP scores are now beat (as far as we know)! Some not by much but it's pretty cool to know that they were all possible. While playing SC I was having a really difficult time believing it was possible because it was so tough but it just required a nearly perfect run. I know I can get well over 800k, I just need to buy a new 3D controller before I can give it a try again. I really wish I didn't take it apart *bangs head on desk*

Re: Japanese high scores from CVG circa 1996 vs SA.net

rumblesushi 02-27-2008, 8:10 AM
So what was the glitch on Soft Museum to get over a mil? :)

Re: Japanese high scores from CVG circa 1996 vs SA.net

gsk 02-27-2008, 12:11 PM
Hi there rumblesushi (great name btw).

Its not so much a glitch as perfecting the 'stunt mode' in Soft Museum. Check out the SM gameplay page for details, and this WR video by Charlie for details.

Re: Japanese high scores from CVG circa 1996 vs SA.net

gsk 02-27-2008, 1:22 PM
Thats it!

SA Spring Valley 791,560
JP Spring Valley 569,360
Differential + 222,200

SA Mystic Forest 875,540
JP Mystic Forest 714,120
Differential +161,420

SA Soft Museum 1,038,420
JP Soft Museum 1,032,540
Differential + 5,880

SA Splash Garden 715,880
JP Splash Garden 660,460
Differential + 55420

SA Frozen Bell 1,016,280
JP Frozen Bell 804,000
Differential + 212,280

SA Stick Canyon 790,600
JP Stick Canyon 789,240
Differential +1,360

Re: Japanese high scores from CVG circa 1996 vs SA.net

rumblesushi 02-28-2008, 5:51 PM
Cheers gsk :D

Impressive vids. I'm a complete noob to nights, only played it for the first time when it was released on PS2. The saturn being one of the only consoles I've never owned.

It really does live up to the hype for me though, the look, the style, the atmosphere, the speed, the fun :D

I can see why it's considered such a classic. I'm quite surprised it's taken this long to get a sequel and re-release.

Re: Japanese high scores from CVG circa 1996 vs SA.net

gsk 09-29-2008, 12:19 PM
Quick update... still al beat of course!

SA Spring Valley 840,660
JP Spring Valley 569,360
Differential + 271,300

SA Mystic Forest 964,840
JP Mystic Forest 714,120
Differential +250750

SA Soft Museum 1,038,420
JP Soft Museum 1,032,540
Differential + 5,880

SA Splash Garden 715,880
JP Splash Garden 660,460
Differential + 55420

SA Frozen Bell 1,143,520
JP Frozen Bell 804,000
Differential +339,520

SA Stick Canyon 790,600
JP Stick Canyon 789,240
Differential +1,360