Re: The Offical FB 800k Thread

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The Offical FB 800k Thread


gsk 04-26-2006, 7:39 AM
m1 - 108+k - infinite
m2 - 120k - Getting that big link before, through and after the bars AND a Dreamy on EACH of the (4?) laps
m3 - 120k - Lance's theory of an infinite?
m4 - 52k - 5 lap run, link ball everytime.

I haven't been playing FB much, but I think Kraken said it best - those middle mares are the key. How do those strats above sound? None of them look impossible judging from the SRs.

gsk

Re: The Offical FB 800k Thread


Kraken 04-26-2006, 6:26 PM
Even with an infinite on Mare 3...how would it help? Mare 1 is far fewer points than 120k, and it has less time between each link ball. I don't think it's possible to achieve an infinite and get too many of those stars in the snowballs, which was pretty much vital for the records that we did achieve. Mare 2 seems just plain impossible, no matter how you look at it...there's gotta be some exploit or glitch somewhere that they used. Or they lied. =/ We could still try, but it's not worth using too much spare time.

Re: The Offical FB 800k Thread


gsk 04-27-2006, 12:58 AM

108+120+120+52 = 400

I reckon thats how it will work.

M2 - something that I was experimenting with - dashing and paralooping in the bar section to break the link ball, thus saving you time compared to going round individual bars. If you could find a path through them with a big enough paraloop... and following it up with a dreamy. Theres 10 (?) rings after the bars, so you'd only need 24 within the bars to open the ball...

M3 - isnt there a star instantly accessible within each snowball? So in theory, you could dash through the centres, then paraloop out.

Ah, maybe you're right - but I'm atleast going to try to get 700k...

gsk

Re: The Offical FB 800k Thread


tabitha 04-27-2006, 9:48 AM
I think this is a worth while pursuit and wish you loads of luck on it. I think I agree if there is any margin for improvement then it is going to be in the middle 2 mares. Perhaps doing one lap less on FB2 and using the extra time for the stunt rings?

Once thing I am very curious about, In my run of FB1 on the video which is recorded for the site, I get a link of 343 and finish with 0 seconds on the clock, ok I miss a few rings but I have absolutely no idea how you got a record of 365 for the link. I could perhaps see 1000 or so points worth of mistakes in my run but you getting 20 links higher than the previous record is very interesting. Thats almost an extra lap. How did you do it?

Re: The Offical FB 800k Thread


gsk 04-27-2006, 10:15 AM

Interestingly enough, there is an extra lap, but not for the link. Its a nine second lap if you do the two paraloops, and 6 seconds if you don't. So you just dash through an extra lap and lose the link ball - it works out as an extra 1k doing that, as opposed to finishing the link ball and backtracking.

In terms of the link number, its all about making really tight circles with the paraloops and your dashing between them. The first paraloop I grab the bottom right star, up and anticlockwise paraloop grabbing the top right and top left star, dashing out at 7 o'clock through the chips, letting any chips I missed and the bottom star to follow. With the second paraloop, I dash into the bottom item, and again up and anticlockwise grabing the top item and dashing through the middle, letting the far left and random middle ones to follow in the wake.

The only time I ever stop dashing is during the paraloops and for a split second through the 4 yellow rings, just to adjust my path. Dont stop while going through the two sets of orange rings - there's just enough manoeuvrability to position yourself for the coming paraloops – the top of the first set, and the bottom of the second one.

All that might only shave less than a second per lap, but they all add up and allow you an extra lap or whatever.

Also, collecting 18-20 chips before entering the palace and dashing through the first lot of chips and going straight for the capture – without worrying about the link ball on the first lap. That should open the capture at 115.

When I get hold of a camera, I'll take a shot of all my records, just for prosperity!

gsk


Re: The Offical FB 800k Thread


gsk 04-28-2006, 1:51 AM

110k+119k+119k+52k=400k

Just got 110k on m1, using Lance's chip route before entering the palace first time, and my dashed through extra lap.

Also, with m2, I've been off by 1 link opening the link ball and dashing through the bars. Once you collect the big link ball, dashing at about 2 o'clock, with a couple of paraloops around the clusters of items, and paraloop around the final lot of chips at the top of the bars, then dashing through the rings and towards the stunt ribbon will do it I reckon.

What links are people consistently getting for m3 around the first snowball area? With the powerloop token, its about 55-60, 30/40 - haven't exactly done it yet, but I assume you paraloop the chips just after the small link ball to continue the link with the chips within the circle of snowballs, right?

m4 - still only 40k+, but getting there. That link ball is difficult. Is everyone doing more that 5 runs through the bobsleigh section?

gsk

Re: The Offical FB 800k Thread


gsk 04-28-2006, 11:55 PM
m3 - the only place my potential infinite link breaks is between the circle of yellow rings, going through the wall of boosters into the snowball area. Any tips?

gsk

Re: The Offical FB 800k Thread


tabitha 04-29-2006, 10:11 AM
I have managed to do this by a fluke a couple of times. I managed to get myself a nicely timed paraloop and the straight into the dash ball which pulled the couple of chips laying around in there and link it into the first cluster of snowballs. It was far more luck than judgement though.

Are you still doing the large paraloop/giant paraloop to collect all the stars? Also im kind of curious how you are linking from the rings just before the Ideya capture to the group of snowballs with the dash counter inside. Just paralooping through the orange rings and dragging the chips behind you?

Re: The Offical FB 800k Thread


tabitha 05-01-2006, 9:27 PM
Based on the new FB1 site record I am assuming you have managed to get another full lap out of that mare? Also are you killing enemies during gameplay?

Re: The Offical FB 800k Thread


gsk 05-02-2006, 2:54 AM

Not a full lap, but an extra link ball opening. Dashed through the set of items left of the palace on the penultimate lap, which give me an extra second to paraloop the set of items after the link ball, to keep the link going.

If I kill the enemies, its a fluke - I dont break the link for it. Theres only two on the mare, so its only 800pts anyway, which isnt worth the time/breaking the link for I think.

gsk

Re: The Offical FB 800k Thread


gsk 05-14-2006, 2:04 PM
113k+130k+110k+51k=404k

More like that I reckon at the moment. Unless theres a big refining of m3 and its snowballs, then I think m2 is the way to go - four laps, with all 8 link balls (2 out of bonus time) and 4 bonus time dreamies.

gsk

Re: The Offical FB 800k Thread


tabitha 05-14-2006, 9:16 PM
Yea I agree with your refinement of FB2, I think this is indeed where to get the extra points.

Re: The Offical FB 800k Thread


gsk 05-17-2006, 1:15 PM
Alright Kraken, how did you get those extra 400 pts in FB1? Its starting to annoy me!!!

And just so you know, I've half given up on the 4 run FB2 strat - my new PR/SR was done with going for the links, and with one stunt ribbon at the end.

Still reckon 800k is doable (all about the dreamies)

lui

Re: The Offical FB 800k Thread


Kraken 05-17-2006, 6:19 PM
To be honest, I really dont know. I just do what I normally do (basically, Lance's strat at the beginning to get the chips, go straight for the ideya capture, and go from there) ... it may have something to do with a luck-based nailing of a creature, to be honest, but I can't be sure.

Oh, congrats on that new FB record. =) I should have more time to give you a decent challenge now that Track's over.

Re: The Offical FB 800k Thread


gsk 05-18-2006, 12:19 AM

Do you find that second nightmarian to be really hard to get? The one just after the link ball justgets in the way normally, but the other one...

As FB1 is down to just 400 pts, we're talking about missing 2/3 items making the difference...

lui

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