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02-05-2006, 4:21 AM EVL Joined on 01-30-2006 UK Posts 83 Cool thing with the little temple jobby Okay, you probably all already know about this, but I only just figured it out. Anyway, the temple thing with the link ball at the beginning that you circle in Mare 3: I just found out that the pads on the corners (not sure what they should be called) toggle whether the center is either open or closed. If it's open you can actually go down into the temple where there's a link ball, and a cavern full of stars. How cool is that. :)    Report

02-05-2006, 6:40 AM tabitha Joined on 01-22-2006 Posts 536 Re: Cool thing with the little temple jobby Thats acctually a airly well documented little secret in the game but DAMN hard to find on you own so credit for that my friend. Also might interest you to know that the level you are currently working on is (to the best of my knowlege) the highest scoring level in the game. Quick question, how did you get that amazing screen shot? Im assuming some knid of model ripped from the disk? Its awesome.    Report

02-05-2006, 7:10 AM EVL Joined on 01-30-2006 UK Posts 83 Re: Cool thing with the little temple jobby It was just from a google image search - it's some french nights site. And finding that little secret was more luck than judgement.    Report

02-11-2006, 1:47 PM Lance Way Joined on 02-11-2006 England Posts 148 Re: Cool thing with the little temple jobby  tabitha wrote: Quick question, how did you get that amazing screen shot? Im assuming some knid of model ripped from the disk? Its awesome. My guess would be that it's a screenshot taken with the old GiriGiri emulator, with non-3D layers turned off (hence the blank space behind the model). I used to use GiriGiri an awful lot to get screenshots for panzerdragoon.net, because the high-res rendering makes things look really sharp, even after you've scaled the image down and optimised it and what-have-you. Unfortunately screenshots is about all GiriGiri is good for, because it has so many rendering errors that games tend to look horrible in motion, and even when taking screenshots you've got to be careful not to capture a visual effect that the emulator screws up. IIRC NiGHTS is particularly eye-offending with GiriGiri, not to mention the lack of analogue control...    Report

02-11-2006, 6:27 PM tabitha Joined on 01-22-2006 Posts 536 Re: Cool thing with the little temple jobby Girigiri does screen shots well? thats kind of handy. I wanted to find an app to do that. I have a load of plans for the site and screenshows would be WAY helpful. I hear that yabause is starting to show promise as well?    Report

02-11-2006, 7:50 PM Lance Way Joined on 02-11-2006 England Posts 148 Re: Cool thing with the little temple jobby Yabause is fairly promising, as is Satourne, but at the moment both of them still seem too far away from being accurate / compatible to be really useful (in the same way that emulators for 16-bit or earlier consoles are). If you're after screenshots, my own advice would be to get them in the same way you're acquiring video footage (that is, from a real Saturn console,) because no Saturn emulators are really accurate enough yet to produce authentic-looking images; they'll almost always look "wrong" in one way or another, even if it's something quite subtle. (In fact, one of the main reasons I've sought out some video capture equipment myself is so I can get correct-looking screenshots from more recent consoles games without having to go through emulation!) If you absolutely need to use a Saturn emulator for some shots though, I'd recommend SSF if you haven't tried it already: http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~phantasy/ssf/ ...it's by far the most accurate Saturn emulator available at the moment, with the downside being that you need a fairly modern PC to run it at all. It's still not perfect (yet) though, and I've yet to actually try NiGHTS on it. Failing all that though, if you just need some good screenshots for specific sections of the site I'll happily do you some myself, as it wouldn't really be much bother.    Report

02-12-2006, 1:55 AM tabitha Joined on 01-22-2006 Posts 536 Re: Cool thing with the little temple jobby Thats a most generous offer and I might just take you up on that if my continued fiddling with video capture doesn pan out. I think I might just be able to do it, my main problem is deciding what to work on first cause I just have too many ideas.    Report

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