Re: Anyone think a gulpo 109 might be possible?

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Anyone think a gulpo 109 might be possible?


tabitha 03-08-2006, 9:50 AM
I know that 108 has stood as the fastest score for a long time but looking at the video i did last night I noticed I only miss the 109 by a fraction of a second and that there are a couple of random wiggles in nights course which could possible be optimised, anyone thing another second could be added or does boosting into the 2nd and 3rd fishes knock Gulpo too far away?

Re: Anyone think a gulpo 109 might be possible?


Lance Way 03-11-2006, 2:35 AM

I'm not sure really, though I was slightly supprised that 108 was possible myself; when I originally worked out the 2.0 tactic, I only ever seemed able to get 107, and I'm still not sure what I was doing that was "slow" back then... I've also never worked out exactly what causes the method to "go wrong" sometimes (is it if you enter the first fish too fast, or the second fish, or both? Does it matter at what exact spot you physically enter / touch the fish?) But because experimenting with Gulpo is such a frustrating trial and error affair, I've never bothered getting to the bottom of these things... :(

One thing I was curious about is, is there even another whole different method that could be used to get a 2.0 on him, a different sequence of fish that you could use? The known method is just the first one I happened to figure out, and I've not tried to look for any other methods beyond it (again because of the oh-so-time-consuming-and-frustrating factor)...

Re: Anyone think a gulpo 109 might be possible?


tabitha 03-11-2006, 3:23 AM
 Lance Way wrote:

 (is it if you enter the first fish too fast, or the second fish, or both? Does it matter at what exact spot you physically enter / touch the fish?)

Well, I think the key to doing it is hitting the first fish the very SECOND it stops moving. It seems if I hit it at that point and dont do something dumb like pressing the wrong direction the 2.0 is assured.

 Lance Way wrote:

One thing I was curious about is, is there even another whole different method that could be used to get a 2.0 on him, a different sequence of fish that you could use?



I dont belive so, I have seen the exact same method in a couple of Japanese game guides and also wierd though this may sound it just kind of "feels" right.

Re: Anyone think a gulpo 109 might be possible?


Lance Way 03-14-2006, 3:14 PM

 tabitha wrote:
I dont belive so, I have seen the exact same method in a couple of Japanese game guides and also wierd though this may sound it just kind of "feels" right.

Ah, I didn't realise it was well-documented - I still haven't bothered getting hold of any of those guides - and in that case it very probably is the only way.

In that case I've really no idea whether a better Gulpo score would be possible or not, but it did occur to me that a better Jackle time might be feasible when I was battling my way to a 104 score with him - when I actually got 104, I was surprised because my flight was still slightly swervy, and there was one point where I actually flew past Jackle and had to U-turn to grab him. It would be quite hard to get if it's even possible at all though, because as I said elsewhere, Jackle denied me a 104 at least fifteen times in a row while I fought my way up from a previous best of 102...

Re: Anyone think a gulpo 109 might be possible?


tabitha 03-15-2006, 9:22 PM
Yeah I think the only possible variable here is going to be getting to the second and third fish faster. In the video I recorded, I think there are a couple of little wiggles in the flight path which might possibly allow for the split second improvement needed to get the 109. I will experiment a bit at some point.

Re: Anyone think a gulpo 109 might be possible?


FiRELASERBEAM 08-06-2006, 11:31 AM
I just got 109 on him a few hours ago. At the start, I did drill dash abit, and I did enter the fish right when it stopped(it stopped when it was behind NiGHTS), and you can tell the rest. It may have just been luck though, but perhaps Drill Dashing a bit at start helps?

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gsk 08-06-2006, 1:08 PM
I'll put it here I supose - congrats!! :)

gsk

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tabitha 08-06-2006, 7:04 PM
I second that, Well done! I would love a little more detailed information on how it was done though.

Re: Anyone think a gulpo 109 might be possible?


FiRELASERBEAM 08-06-2006, 8:34 PM
 tabitha wrote:
I second that, Well done! I would love a little more detailed information on how it was done though.


It was pretty much the same way as usual. I really can't remember what exactly I did that was different. I may have just gotten VERY lucky. In fact, the 109 was a attempt to to PRACTICE against 2.0ing Gulpo. I do have a pic to prove though(check my score topic).

Re: Anyone think a gulpo 109 might be possible?


gsk 08-07-2006, 12:51 AM
lol I think everyone has at least one Nights score that they got lucky with at the time and can't seem to repeat - SV3 for me!

If you can perfect a 109 Gulpo, any chance you could record it (webcam, video capture etc) - I for one would like to see, and I'm sure David would be happy to host it here.

gsk

Re: Anyone think a gulpo 109 might be possible?


FiRELASERBEAM 08-07-2006, 7:40 AM
I just 109'd him again today eariler.

I think the 109 may have something to do with where you "enter" the fish. EX: For the first fish, I was in the "center" of it when it stopped, then for the second fish, I think I entered it for below a bit.Third fish was maybe the same thing, but I may have flown towards it a bit more straight...

And if I ever get something to record my Saturn with anything in high-quality, I will get a video.

Re: Anyone think a gulpo 109 might be possible?


tabitha 08-07-2006, 7:49 PM
Hell yes, I would be totally happy about to host it. I never even thought about the idea of the angle you enter the fish affecting things but I think you might have the key there.

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